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Demon 12sec Club

Joined: 09 Jan 2004 Posts: 1189 Location: You're not worthy
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:59 pm Post subject: Test Drove an 06 Monte Carlo SS ... thoughts... |
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303hp 5.3 V8 with Displacement on Demand... really WEIRD to drive a car with that, but it was pretty damned fun, for a FWD car ... torque steer isn't insanely bad, its there, but for the right reasons I suppose... it's a damn quick car and I must say, I'm pretty impressed with what they've done...
not sure if they have a manual option, highly doubt it but it'd be nice (not like the charger has a manual anyway either though ) ...
i liked it, but not enough to trade my little car in on one if I can't have atleast a manual _________________
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| whats displacement on demand? does it run on 6 cylinders until you hit the gas or somthing? |
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5476
1987 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Actually it runs on 4, 6, or 8. The lifters collapse on the cylinders it doesnt want to use. This causes the cylinder to just become a big air spring. |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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so it compresses and uncompresses the air over and over? seems like it would be better to suck in air from the intake side and spit it out the exhaust side w/o adding fuel, or sparking. then your emmissions would be better since there would be clean air going out with it... or if thats not true, push the air back out the intake side.
EDIT. but then it would leach power, with the "air spring" action the compressed air forces the cylinder back up ohh.. wait, it still has to work to compress it. i'm stumped. magic. it works with magic. |
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5476
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| LOL you almost got it though. Yes it takes energy to compress the air, but that is given back minus frictional losses when it pushes the piston back down again. |
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Demon 12sec Club

Joined: 09 Jan 2004 Posts: 1189 Location: You're not worthy
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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it's actually a pretty cool technology, though its kind of weird to want to rev the engine and it won't go past 3500 in park I can understand its benefits, but I'm always curious as I'm sure others are, if it can be turned off _________________
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mrpopo573 Member
Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 761 Location: Port Townsend/Maui HI
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:51 am Post subject: |
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In my dealer opinion,
I wouldn't go near that thing with a ten foot pole.
I love chevrolet, but not anything that i have come out with for nearly the last ten years. (corvettes aside)
Everyone remembers when Cadillac had the 468 deal on their car. What a nightmare. At the South Seattle Dealer Auction, talk of that motor and service systems is just off the charts.(the new SS fwd v
For my.02 cents, seriously reconsider getting something a little less new. These are the kind of cars that if you must have one, you let two or three production years go by and watch people blow them up. _________________
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85 T/A WS6 Member
Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 539 Location: Buckley
1985 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| mrpopo573 wrote: | In my dealer opinion,
I wouldn't go near that thing with a ten foot pole.
I love chevrolet, but not anything that i have come out with for nearly the last ten years. (corvettes aside)
Everyone remembers when Cadillac had the 468 deal on their car. What a nightmare. At the South Seattle Dealer Auction, talk of that motor and service systems is just off the charts.(the new SS fwd v
For my.02 cents, seriously reconsider getting something a little less new. These are the kind of cars that if you must have one, you let two or three production years go by and watch people blow them up. |
Comparing the V8-6-4 with the newer Active Fuel Management is not fair, AFM will be in over 2 million vehicles by 2008 so its not an experiment, its a legitimate technology, and not a GM exclusive.
The V8-6-4's biggest issue was that the engine control computer was simply not fast enough or powerful enough to efficiently manage the number of cylinders in operation (This was 1981)
I would go with the Grand Prix if your in the market, the GTP is still avaialble with the time-tested supercharger, I would opt for the GXP though, it has the same 5.3 and first introduced in the Pontiac.
Getting a slighter older car is a good option, let somebody else take the drive-off-the-lot depreciation. Look for a GM Certified.
http://www.gmbuypower.com/cuvHome.cv?
I have owned nothing but GM for the last 6 years, 8 cars total including a 98 Yukon SLT and 02 Grand Prix, both that run fine (besides a few overlooked maintenance items) |
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Sellmanb Member
Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Posts: 727 Location: Tigard, OR
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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The idea sounds nice, and where I work we havent had any customers coming back for warrantees commonly in those. But to be fair, they arent selling that well either so there arent many of those models out there.
I too would let something like that go by for another few years and see how they last "in the long haul" before going that route. |
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Vaneat-91RS Member
Joined: 09 Feb 2006 Posts: 87 Location: Kirkland, WA
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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The reality of any new car is this: consumers have demanded more and more gadgets, gizmo's, and widgets (heated seats, cooled seats, turn signals in mirrors, navigation, drive by wire, steering wheel controls of radios, cruise and hvac, etc.). In addition, the technology bar has gone through the roof, and every manufacturer is trying to outdo the others (iDrive anyone?). This also includes engines and drivetrains. The result is there is a lot more crap that can take a crap on your car these days, and the repairs are VERY expensive. A common HVAC controller is in excess of $300.00 new in most cases. With ABS, the wheel speed sensors are usually part of the hub now--figure $250-$500 a hub depending on the car. Does anyone actually drive anymore (ourselves excluded of course ). Anyone seen the new G6 convertible? Power hardtop, we're already grousing about what a pain that ones going to be.
I get yelled at on an almost daily basis for what it costs to replace parts of newer cars (95 and up). But that tech stuff is just flat pricey. I always want to ask people if they can build it when they get worked up over the price of a part. Yes, I am mean some days.  _________________ Vaneat-91RS
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