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sailorrick New Member
Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 15 Location: Oak Harbor WA
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 6:15 pm Post subject: gas mileage?? |
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Hi all..
I did finally get that 400sbc from the engine warehouse and so far its been a prety good motor BUT the gas mileage.. On two trips so far down to Aberdeen my best gas mileage has been 11.88 MPG. Just wondering if that sounds about right or what? The RPM at 70 is at about 3000.
The motor has 9.1 compression, stock 82 intake and exhaust manifolds, looks like a 3 inch cat back system, stock trans (I believe) and cat. Oh yeah and the cam is 292 intake and 288 exhaust.
Hoping to get a good set of headers and intake soon. In the spring paint and body  |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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With that cam, and that RPM you're doing GREAT!
I've got some heavy tuning and turn 3800rpm at 70mph and get 10-11 average in my 355.
I assume you have no overdrive with that RPM? |
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alloy T56 Elitist

Joined: 25 Jan 2004 Posts: 1716 Location: Vancouver, WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Well you guys definately make me feel much better now. I knew there had to be a reason I didn't mod my motor heavily, $2.63 per gallon and 22 mpg on my last tank city driving with an egg under my right foot  |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| alloy wrote: | Well you guys definately make me feel much better now. I knew there had to be a reason I didn't mod my motor heavily, $2.63 per gallon and 22 mpg on my last tank city driving with an egg under my right foot  |
That's why I'm getting the 6 speed.  |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:15 am Post subject: |
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will a six speed improve your gas mialage? what will it do for power/acceleration?
i am pricing out my 3.8turbobuick swap and am trying to decide on a rebuilt or used T5 or a rebuilt/used T56. |
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sailorrick New Member
Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 15 Location: Oak Harbor WA
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:47 am Post subject: |
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I was kinda worried that someone would tell me that with that cam and all my mileage would be good .
I have heard from a fe people that the 200R transmission wouldn't live long behind the 400 so when it does go out I'm thinking of probably getting the 700R4.
If we ever get a clear day again I will be doing something with my cat...I hear that could help some, plus bring me a few more ponys maybe  |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:06 am Post subject: |
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| sailorrick wrote: | I was kinda worried that someone would tell me that with that cam and all my mileage would be good .
I have heard from a fe people that the 200R transmission wouldn't live long behind the 400 so when it does go out I'm thinking of probably getting the 700R4.
If we ever get a clear day again I will be doing something with my cat...I hear that could help some, plus bring me a few more ponys maybe  |
If you get a 700, get a probuilt automatic. A stock 700 will roast behind a 400. I broke my "built" 700 from a local reputible shop and it broke behind a 240hp 350.
The 6 speed will help with milage if you're trans/gearing is out of whack for milage. IE >>> no overdrive, steep rear gears... like me.
The 6 speed is a double overdrive. The T56 from '93 has liek a .80 6th gear OD. 94-97 has a .50 6th gear. Lower RPM, less fuel used. In theory. |
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| Twilightoptics wrote: | That's why I'm getting the 6 speed.  |
Damn straight. When I came down to portland last time I was getting 27mpg with the top down at 70-80mph. |
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sailorrick New Member
Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 15 Location: Oak Harbor WA
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:46 am Post subject: |
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I would really like the 6 speed BUT I have a wife thats not into cars at all so getting any money out of her is a pain. .
I don't mind the 11 MPG so bad around town (well..actually its probably allot worse in town) but on road trips DAM!! I'm even thinking of maybe getting an old POS honda or something for work.
Does any have anything to say about western washington firebirds? I'm thinking of joining. |
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mrpopo573 Member
Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 761 Location: Port Townsend/Maui HI
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:06 am Post subject: |
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I would go six speed. Not just because shifting makes me horny, but because it will probably suit your build perfectly. T5 would take a lot of build work to handle your motor, six speed, in good shape, should cope well with putting that to the ground, plus the parasitic power loss of a t56, (i believe) is better than the 700r4, which chevy power magazine studied, and the 700r4 has over 50hp draw on the motor alone.
Gas mileage gain? It depends on how much you love to shift. I'd probably keep it in 2nd or third around town just to reverberate and rumble my way past everyone. Crank up some Tool on the stereo and just stare at all those civics.... Mention this to the wife, on how it would improve your rep around town. I'm sure she'll fork over the tranny money after you beg. _________________
| 305302eater wrote: | Man I would love a 69. I hate you so much.
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2000 Maxima SE 5 Speed VQ30
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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| mrpopo573 wrote: | | Not just because shifting makes me horny, |
i almost spit milk out of my nose.... and i was not drinking milk  _________________ 86' firebird (Junked in 2015). 88' GTA (sold in 2020).
| aaron_sK wrote: | | Hell, Tony drove his GTA to Cows a few years back with the pickup coil that came out in pieces. |
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Dewey316 The Lama

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
1990 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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I love using my stick.
Bag dum, ching.
I'll be here all week. |
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Schultzy89GTA M.R.A. (11sec Club)

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 4417 Location: Gresham, OR
1989 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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I am sooo looking forward to getting these 's to a gathering.
Funny stuff dude.
-Schultzy |
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mrpopo573 Member
Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 761 Location: Port Townsend/Maui HI
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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I'm becoming a post whore.
I'm glad you guys liked that. I wish I was kidding.
Sometimes I stare at my 700r4 shift plate and frown, knowing full well I'd cheat on my car with an IROCZ 5 speed in a second.
Here's to getting my nooby ass to a meet soon. and hey! I could be 21 by then. You know what that means? Asphalt and liquid courage!
Ultimate combo. _________________
| 305302eater wrote: | Man I would love a 69. I hate you so much.
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Dewey316 The Lama

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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| mrpopo573 wrote: | | Asphalt and liquid courage! |
As stupid and in-mature as we all seem. That is the one combination we never do. Cars + booze = BAD, very bad.
When we drink, we drink (ohhh do we drink).
When we drive, we drive it like we stole it.
But never together. :nods: |
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mrpopo573 Member
Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 761 Location: Port Townsend/Maui HI
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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I never meant drinking and driving.
I will, however, do burnouts on private land and then drink a stiff dark ale in the after smoke of my roasted tires.
But no, never ever ever do I find any pleasure in putting innocent people at risk for my own actions. I didn't mean the joke in that way. _________________
| 305302eater wrote: | Man I would love a 69. I hate you so much.
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Dewey316 The Lama

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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Just making sure.
Hehheheh, burnouts  |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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i ahve never done a burnout in my car. my little sister sold her 87 2.8 Auto to a guy who was swapping in a 350, i powerbraked the shizzle out of that thing before we got rid of it
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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hey the word filter changed a ligit cuss word into gangster slang sh** = shizzle. thats funny, then anyone who uses naughty language ends up looking like a retarded honda driver....  |
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Schultzy89GTA M.R.A. (11sec Club)

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 4417 Location: Gresham, OR
1989 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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lol - ya i should mention to the new folks that while we are not prudes, we are sensitive to the fact that we have family members and younger folks who browse here so keep it PG - PG-13 if you would please.
Thanks!
-Unca Schultzy |
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