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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:33 pm    Post subject: How to brake in an engine: Reply with quote

http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

Good reading. Mike, from Lewis Racing Engines states on the above:

"Well, I didn't know they were "secrets",, but I can tell you that his dyno recommendations are almost exactly what we have been doing for years & it works for me.
I warm the engine while varying speed with no load for about 20 minutes, put it under a light load from about 2000-3500 for another 5-10 minutes, (the dyno will cycle it between these set points for as long as you want) shut it off & check the filter & readjust the valves if necessary.
Start it back up, do a few lighter pulls to 4000, then 5000, 6000 etc depending on what it is, then hammer it & see what happens
Most times you smile ,,, sometimes not,,,, "
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent Paully! See you later Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good info.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I used that technique. We'll see what happens in the long run I suppose.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used that too.

The GMPP break-in instructions have something similar to that. A few light throttle runs, medium throttle, then heavy throttle.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to question this article... it looks like it's great information! But it also seems that this is for "factory bored" engines. Not a bore job that you get from a machine shop.

He states in the article something about how the factory's now days use a much better machining process that is much finer than the older machining processes.

This would leave me to believe that this article is only meant for brand new factory engines.

I hope someone will prove me wrong though... I'll take any excuse I can to drive like an asshat when I get the car running again (couple months I think Smile ).
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^ still curious
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMHO it doesn't make any difference whether this is a factory fresh engine or a fresh rebuild. What do you think would be different in the sealing properties of new rings in a block machined or honed by a machine shop vs. new rings in a factory fresh block?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what I'm asking Smile lol.

I know that the factory typically has a lot better equipment for all different parts of the cars, so I was curious if their "bore machine" was more precise than the machine shops. It says that the bore grooves are a lot closer from the factory now days than they were way back when, which is why playing hard on the engine to break it in is a better idea. I was just curious if the same technology had jumped into machine shops.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sellmanb wrote:
I was just curious if the same technology had jumped into machine shops.


I wouldnt be surprised if the machine shops are ahead of the factories, and the factories are taking tips from some of the private companies. I mean... when you think about it.

A factory is making an entire line of something which could last a long time (3rdgens lasted for 10 years for example). Granted, the factories get retooled every few years, I see a private machine shop really staying up with the most modern approaches (if the funds are there) because they can start running and tinkering with a new machine without holding up an entire production line.


Also... this looks like it is for bikes and snomo's, typically hi-revving 4 cylinders. Does the same apply for V-8's in the break in process?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Midnight Sun wrote:
Sellmanb wrote:
I was just curious if the same technology had jumped into machine shops.


I wouldnt be surprised if the machine shops are ahead of the factories, and the factories are taking tips from some of the private companies. I mean... when you think about it.

A factory is making an entire line of something which could last a long time (3rdgens lasted for 10 years for example). Granted, the factories get retooled every few years, I see a private machine shop really staying up with the most modern approaches (if the funds are there) because they can start running and tinkering with a new machine without holding up an entire production line.


Also... this looks like it is for bikes and snomo's, typically hi-revving 4 cylinders. Does the same apply for V-8's in the break in process?


That made complete sense. Thanks for clearing that up for me Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Midnight Sun wrote:
Sellmanb wrote:
I was just curious if the same technology had jumped into machine shops.



Also... this looks like it is for bikes and snomo's, typically hi-revving 4 cylinders. Does the same apply for V-8's in the break in process?



"How To Break In Your Engine For
More Power & Less Wear !

One of the most critical parts of the engine building process is the break in !!
No matter how well an engine is assembled, it's final power output is all up to you !!

Although the examples shown here are motorcycle engines,
these principles apply to all 4 stroke engines:

Street or Race Motorcycles, Cars, Snowmobiles, Airplanes & yes ...
even Lawn Mowers !!
( regardless of brand, cooling type, or number of cylinders. )"
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sellmanb wrote:
Midnight Sun wrote:
Sellmanb wrote:
I was just curious if the same technology had jumped into machine shops.


I wouldnt be surprised if the machine shops are ahead of the factories, and the factories are taking tips from some of the private companies. I mean... when you think about it.

A factory is making an entire line of something which could last a long time (3rdgens lasted for 10 years for example). Granted, the factories get retooled every few years, I see a private machine shop really staying up with the most modern approaches (if the funds are there) because they can start running and tinkering with a new machine without holding up an entire production line.


Also... this looks like it is for bikes and snomo's, typically hi-revving 4 cylinders. Does the same apply for V-8's in the break in process?


That made complete sense. Thanks for clearing that up for me Smile


Sarcasm?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nope, it made a lot of sense that the machine shops wouldnt be "stuck" with the same equipment for a decade (+/-), so they could get better equipment without any downfall (except their wallets of course lol)
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2005 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear ya... I guess I was just looking at it from the perspective that regardless of how sophisticated the machinery is (robotics for example) in the end analysis your are boring a hole x size. If said hole measures out to be x size then it is all good Thumbs up

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