Cascade Crew

jchaussee · Member Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Posts: 1318 Location: renton

You are correct. I didn't think about headers and how close and hot everything gets

Twilightoptics · Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:39 pm Post subject:

The originals are direct drive. Outdated technology.

Alphius · Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:49 pm Post subject:

I cooked a solenoid every 2-3 months and the starter itself about every 8 months when I had an original direct drive. It sucked.

LT4 starter slapped in and it's been good for about 3 years now.

QwkTrip · Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:12 pm Post subject:

My LSx is a bit of a problem for starter. I needed something a little more stout than stock to crank the engine. Unfortunately, the gear reduction starter I bought *might* have fit with stock manifolds (doubt it), but definitely not with my headers. And it's not just a matter of fitting because you don't want the ambient air around solenoid above 120C and the skin temp of the exhaust is HOT. Fortunately, the starter has an indexing front housing so I mounted the starter upside down and I'll have to drill new drain holes and move the vent tubes. Hoping it works out okay with my tubular K-member. Definitely gives the solenoid some space away from the headers though.

If the starter solenoid cooks then I guess I'll have to make a thin aluminum heat shield to protect the starter.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:05 pm Post subject:

They make starter blankets.

QwkTrip · Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:11 pm Post subject:

That will keep heat in and probably hold moisture and cause corrosion. Starters generate a lot of heat themselves that needs to dissipate.

A piece of metal heat shield does wonders.

jchaussee · Member Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Posts: 1318 Location: renton

http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/pts/2843674508.html
guaranteed for a year

QwkTrip · Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:19 pm Post subject:

Hitachi style, or Hitachi? Big difference.

$59 is in the territory of what it costs just to buy a decent automotive starter from manufacturer, and that doesn't even include store markups. The only way to get store price that low is for it to be a Chinese knockoff. And the copiers do not understand why the design is the way it is. Run away and don't look back.

Besides, I despise copiers. They hurt good businesses and have disregard for the law. And seriously, do you think a guy selling on Craigslist is really going to be around when you need to make claim on that warranty?

aaron_sK · Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:36 pm Post subject:

That's ThunderChicken from down South a ways. All Chinese knockoff sh**. All of it. Try finding a brand name for anything they sell. Laughing

jchaussee · Member Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Posts: 1318 Location: renton

Ya thunder chicken ranch. I want to check out thier store.

aaron_sK · Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:08 am Post subject:

Why? I wouldn't buy anything from them on principal.

jchaussee · Member Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Posts: 1318 Location: renton

I have none. If its Chinese and lasts while I need it and is half price. Si be it

Twilightoptics · Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:30 am Post subject:

jchaussee · Member Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Posts: 1318 Location: renton

I am not sure of the percentages butvi would assume well over half of everything you have is either Chinese or Mexican made. Some last. Some don't. It all Has to do with quality control.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:03 am Post subject:

And the well below cost knock offs have zero quality control.

jchaussee · Member Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Posts: 1318 Location: renton

I probably would not use a knock off starter on my Camaro, mainly because a pain in the ass to r and r. But I would roll with one on my truck. That is how I determine off ibwould use a knockoff. Ease of replacement , cost of part and if it fails what negative impact would it have.

jchaussee · Member Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Posts: 1318 Location: renton

Another think you have to remember with Chinese knock offs is they have have a long ways over the last few years. A lot of them are just no named stuff of the brand name stuff just so they can enter more markets.the cost of laborbis so low that they can sell a name brand part that we buy for 500 for 50. Case in point. I pad. Cast like 6 dollars to make. Yet people pay 600. And machining has come a long way. I was looking at buying a taruas 357 mag. They are considered lower tier guns, yet the machining and tooling is almost on par with companies such as Smith and Wesson, yet they half the cost.

91camaro_rs · Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:40 am Post subject:

i do have headers which could be heating up the starter, but i dont think thats the issue because the first starter i had lasted a year, and i can drive for at least 30 mins turn it off and turn it back on and its fine, today i drove maybe 5 mins and it did its click thing again, i wouldnt think thats enough time to heat soak it

jchaussee · Member Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Posts: 1318 Location: renton

I know some are against it, but maybe try your luck with a jy starter of a lower Milage third gen. May solve your issues for a while.

aaron_sK · Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:18 pm Post subject: