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QwkTrip
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:16 pm    Post subject: Front K-member options Reply with quote

Give me a list of every company you know that make a K-member for a 3rd gen. Opinions on which to go for are welcome, too.

Spohn
BMR
PA Racing

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Racecraft

http://www.racecraft.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=268&zenid=2441994c4dde5c4e80fb87ee67799631

AJE

http://www.ajeracing.com/camarofirebird.php

Want some shiny to go under that LQ motor? Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! I just want to open up some space under the motor so things fit.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Street car? Factory.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would love to have more room.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really? None of the tube k-members will live on the street?

What happens? Do they crack and break?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not good for the street assumes you actually drive it on the street. Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would stay away from the sphon's if you are going with tubular a-arms. There have been reports on TGO of the wheel not staying in the factory position. I believe that racecraft has different editions with more bracing.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a lot of reasons to stay away from Spohn. None of his LS swap parts are well thought out.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

QwkTrip wrote:
Really? None of the tube k-members will live on the street?

What happens? Do they crack and break?


I'm sure they'd live on the street but most are far from strong enough for repeated street abuse (potholes, road turtles, debris, etc). I looked into them awhile ago and there was ONE company that offered a "road race" version with extra bracing in optimal locations but it's been so long I can't remember what fab company it was.

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There are a lot of reasons to stay away from Spohn. None of his LS swap parts are well thought out.


I'm using spohn motor mounts right now and I had no issues. But then again it's hard to mess up a U strap. Laughing

Redlava, from everything I've seen on tgo ( Laughing ) the spohn a arm issue was resolved and all new arms have proper wheel alignment and have been this way for awhile.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The other problem is I need to stay with rubber engine mounts. My LS idles pretty rough and shakes the whole car. The last thing I need is stiffer motor mounts.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure its not idling rough because the factory rubber mounts are shot? LS motors typically don't shake like that unless they're REALLY extreme.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't really know. I'll pay attention when I pull the motor. The idle is set to 850 RPM even though it is a big cam. The tuner wanted it to have a lumpy sound. I wouldn't mind adding 100 RPM to the idle speed.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. Mine idles @ ~550rpm. Shows how un-aggressive mine is. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, that's a high idle. How big is this cam?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

237/242 @ 0.05
113 lobe separation
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can make a video if you want to hear it but I have no way to post it.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still a tiny cam. Shouldn't idle that rough. I idle my solid lifter cam with an old SBC at 750 and it's pretty smooth at 110lsa. With 113 and an LS version, it shouldn't be bad at all.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't normally name my cars but I guess I'll call this one "Tiny" Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL.

On a side note. I have never had any problem with Spohn quality, service, or fitment.

TGO imho is not better than a DSM forum anymore.

Find actual people who have installed these pieces and had trouble.

If it's okay for road racing, it's okay for the street. A rumble strip 20times a day on race day, with stiff as hell suspension is as bad as the occasional pot hole I would think.

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