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nonsensekid20
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew that.. Doh!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you dig out the diagram for your carb, it will list what port have full vacuum. Otherwise get some pipe fittings.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the big one on the bottom has full vac. Not sure about that though. Which one on the carb should it hook to? PCV, Power brake, etc?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, looky here at this clever thing that I have found with one quick search of Holley's database... Rolling Eyes

http://www.holley.com/data/Products/Technical/199R10219-3rev.pdf

Note the images on pages six and seven. Your brakes and crank vent should already be hooked up as indicated. Run the HVAC off of the full manifold port on the bottom front unless you run full vacuum to your distributor.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't really think about that... Embarassed

Gotta hand it to you guys. Not really sure what I'd be doin without you. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going slower? Shrug
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeahh... hahaha.

So looking at that website, I've had my dizzy adv. in the wrong spot the whole time. It's on a full manifold vac port instead of the timed spark port. That'll make it run a lot different wont it?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If that's where the car likes it, then leave it. Put the HVAC line somewhere else.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll just swap em so the HVAC can have the full vacuum port.

Off to schucks to get 10' of vacuum line. lol
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't run the HVAC off of ported vacuum. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The HVAC is on a PCV port right now. I just want to move it to a smaller port.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't make me post the whole GM service manual on here. any vacuum powered accesory should only be hooked up to the vacuum canister located below the charcol canister which can be viewed from underneath the front driver side fender or the vacuum tree located on intake manifold between carb and dizzy. But if you bought a holly carb or after market intake you may have it blocked off or non existant.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HVAC needs to be on manifold vacuum.

I've NEVER run into a motor that likes Ported vacuum for spark advance better than manifold..... except the Wankel.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twilightoptics wrote:
I've NEVER run into a motor that likes Ported vacuum for spark advance better than manifold..... except the Wankel.


3.1 veesix with the stock truck 2.8 dizzy in it. Idled and came off idle weird when timed on manifold vacuum. Recurve springs helped, but it ran fine on the ported. Shrug

Regardless, PCV needs to be on the PCV port, distributor needs to be where it already is, and the HVAC can go elsewhere.

Out of curiosity, what intake are you running? Most are tapped for vacuum someplace.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh, right. I knew that. haha. Run the vacuum from the full vacuum to the canister, then from the canister to the HVAC. right?

And there is a vacuum in the intake, I have it hooked up to power brakes right now. And I have no PCV. Thats why its just an open spot.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From full vacuum, run a line to the canister with a check valve in-line (close to manifold). Anywhere along that line, after the check valve, you can install a tee to run to HVAC.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al Hasse wrote:
From full vacuum, run a line to the canister with a check valve in-line (close to manifold). Anywhere along that line, after the check valve, you can install a tee to run to HVAC.


I'm with stupid

Vacuum doesn't flow anywhere, and therefore it doesn't care whether it's teed up at the top, or down by the canister. Just as long as it has atmospheric access to the reservoir, and is behind the check valve.

You should also get a proper crank vent going. No sense fouling up your oil.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok so what exactly does the check valve do?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keeps the vacuum from being released out of the system once it's been built up. The engine only makes vacuum some of the time, you're just storing it with a one-way valve.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are using CANISTER as a term for the EVAP CANISTER, It doesn't get full vacuum.

The RESERVOIR gets full vacuum Tee'd like mentioned several times above.

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