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IROC-stangs
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 Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 7:56 pm Post subject: electrical issue HELP! |
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| Ok so I have the starter all tightened up in the camaro but now i cant get anything like the lights or anything that the battery would effect to work? before I removed the old starter (which btw the starter was bad) i could get the lights to work, windows to roll up, etc. the battery cables are tightned and the battery is pretty full but still no luck. What should i check for to get this fixed? HELP! |
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Al Hasse
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| Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Did you connect the other two or three wires to the starter. They have the fusible links that enable all of those electrical loads - they go on the same post on the starter.
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IROC-stangs
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| Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Al Hasse wrote: | | Did you connect the other two or three wires to the starter. They have the fusible links that enable all of those electrical loads - they go on the same post on the starter. |
ya the three red wires I connected to the same stem and then the black one to another stem and the small one to the smaller kinda hidden stem. |
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chevymad
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| Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Only 1 wire goes to a small stem.. all the others go together on the big stem with the battery cable. You should be able to tell which by the size of the eye on the wire. The small stem on the motor side is the one to use too. |
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| Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| chevymad wrote: | | Only 1 wire goes to a small stem.. all the others go together on the big stem with the battery cable. You should be able to tell which by the size of the eye on the wire. The small stem on the motor side is the one to use too. |
ya i got the three on one stem, the smaller ground on the small stem, then the black ground on the other stem. |
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aaron_sK
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| Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Theres three posts on a two post Chevy starter solenoid, eh? I must have been doing it wrong all this time.
I am sooo stupid. I only see two posts there. One for the wires with big eyelets, and one for the single wire with a small eylet. No wonder none of my cars start. |
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| Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Almost all replacement solenoids on replacement starters will have all 3 posts. The 3 post was for 12v start on points distributors. Since it doesnt hurt anything the rebuilders just use the old solenoid for all rebuilds. |
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| Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | Theres three posts on a two post Chevy starter solenoid, eh? I must have been doing it wrong all this time.
I am sooo stupid. I only see two posts there. One for the wires with big eyelets, and one for the single wire with a small eylet. No wonder none of my cars start. |
lol here i'll get a picture or two in an bit. |
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| Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| chevymad wrote: | | Almost all replacement solenoids on replacement starters will have all 3 posts. The 3 post was for 12v start on points distributors. Since it doesnt hurt anything the rebuilders just use the old solenoid for all rebuilds. |
What I get for shopping at junkyards.  |
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Al Hasse
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| Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| IROC-stangs wrote: | | chevymad wrote: | | Only 1 wire goes to a small stem.. all the others go together on the big stem with the battery cable. You should be able to tell which by the size of the eye on the wire. The small stem on the motor side is the one to use too. |
ya i got the three on one stem, the smaller ground on the small stem, then the black ground on the other stem. |
Those wires aren't grounds. The starter grounds where it mounts to the motor. |
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| Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Al Hasse wrote: | | IROC-stangs wrote: | | chevymad wrote: | | Only 1 wire goes to a small stem.. all the others go together on the big stem with the battery cable. You should be able to tell which by the size of the eye on the wire. The small stem on the motor side is the one to use too. |
ya i got the three on one stem, the smaller ground on the small stem, then the black ground on the other stem. |
Those wires aren't grounds. The starter grounds where it mounts to the motor. |
sorry i dont know the diffrence |
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| Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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ok these pics show where i have the wires at
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chevymad
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| Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Lmao.. take all those wires off the back "stud" and hook them to the same post as the battery cable. Those are your main power feed wires, not grounds. |
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| Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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| BTW you've cracked the cap on that solenoid. It won't be long til it quits working. |
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aaron_sK
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| Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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That's a two post 'noid. And it's cracked. And you have the fuseable links bolted to the starter case for some reason.
Take the three orange wires off the stud you have them on. Put them on the stud along with the larger black wire.
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| chevymad wrote: | | Lmao.. take all those wires off the back "stud" and hook them to the same post as the battery cable. Those are your main power feed wires, not grounds. |
ok so take the red wires off and put them on the same stud as where i have the black wire correct? |
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| Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | That's a two post 'noid. And it's cracked. And you have the fuseable links bolted to the starter case for some reason.
Take the three orange wires off the stud you have them on. Put them on the stud along with the larger black wire.
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ok, so you think this will solve everything? |
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Al Hasse
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| Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| IROC-stangs wrote: | | chevymad wrote: | | Lmao.. take all those wires off the back "stud" and hook them to the same post as the battery cable. Those are your main power feed wires, not grounds. |
ok so take the red wires off and put them on the same stud as where i have the black wire correct? |
With them connected to the same post as the battery cable, they can take power from the battery and feed the electrical loads throughout the car  |
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aaron_sK
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| Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| IROC-stangs wrote: | | ok, so you think this will solve everything? |
If a guy who does know what he's talking about, and a guy who thinks he knows what he's talking about both tell you the same thing within 60 seconds, you should probably roll with it. |
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| Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | | IROC-stangs wrote: | | ok, so you think this will solve everything? |
If a guy who does know what he's talking about, and a guy who thinks he knows what he's talking about both tell you the same thing within 60 seconds, you should probably roll with it. |
ya stupid question once i think of it, but i just didnt know if this could just be an step or if it would competly fix this problem. but anyhow i got it running now but i need to figure out how to get the inlet from the air filter box to the maf back to level since sometime it got pushed up anyhow thats an diffrent story. it sounds like a s/c though  im just glad its finally running. |
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