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GREG DAVIDSON Member

Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 1159 Location: Salem
1989 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: swapping engines |
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looks like we'll be swapping motors this week going to put the one out of the white one into the red one any advise ? its pretty self explanitory i know but i think im going to rip off all the smog junk any advise is helpful
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Quasi-Traction "I have petals"

Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 3873 Location: stumptown
1986 Chevrolet Camaro Berlinetta
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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have a good chain, make sure the engine hoist can handle the load.
Have lots of fun, and beers standing by! _________________
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blue89 Member

Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
1986 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:06 am Post subject: |
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The camaro noses are stupid long. Make sure you get a lift that can reach all the way in. Coming at it from the side does not work. 1/2 ton lift will be plenty. The engine/tranny combo is pretty heavy too so be careful when its up. Make sure you do this on concrete! I also bag the tranny ouput shaft with a sandwich bag and then wrap electrical tape around it so it doesn't leak. And its always a good idea to take the distributor cap off so you don't catch it on the firewall upper lip.
Just go slow. I pulled mine out this weekend as well and I'll list what I forgot to take off:
throttle cable
tranny wires
kickdown cable went AROUND an engine bay harness so I had to do that last minute |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:32 am Post subject: |
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Take a creeper or skateboard or something, and toss it under the tailshaft. Keeps it from smacking the concrete. Have another person with a car to run to the parts store for you when you inevitably find out you forgot or broke something.
Oh and listen to Travis and try to find a level concrete pad. You can swap an engine in the grass (ask me how I know), but it's nothing but a PITA, especially if you've never done one before. |
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blue89 Member

Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
1986 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:42 am Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | | Take a creeper or skateboard or something, and toss it under the tailshaft. |
Great idea! I usually use a block of wood as close to the tailshaft as I can get. I still use my skateboards (at 29 I still board!). I've used a small jack before too. This time I left the cross member in and then lifted the tranny up over it. Next time I'll take it out and leave the tailshaft on one of my small lifts so it has wheels. |
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corey davidson Member

Joined: 12 Sep 2008 Posts: 351 Location: salem
1986 Chevrolet Camaro
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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| good thing i skateboard than |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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If you're feeling brave you can pull the engine and leave the tranny on blocks. I did it when I swapped the Merc engine, and it came out fine... on the second stab.
Would have been easier with a Chevy, since old Ford big block trannies have full bellhousings, not 3/4 like the 700R4's. |
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GREG DAVIDSON Member

Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 1159 Location: Salem
1989 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| thanks guys i am planning on leaving the trnsmixers in the cars the trans in the white ones junk was just debating which ways easier to swap trans in or out i think i wanna leave it in |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Why if he's brave? Tranny coming out with the motor is easier on the ford. Way not neccessary with a SBC. If it's a stick, I pull the trans out with the motor. Auto leave in place. |
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blue89 Member

Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
1986 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| I just hate having to crawl under there and do all those damn bolts. Especially if stuff doesn't line up right and you have to drop the tranny down anyway cause you can't reach the top bolts. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:49 am Post subject: |
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| Make sure your cherry picker is long enough or you'll scruntch the nose! |
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corey davidson Member

Joined: 12 Sep 2008 Posts: 351 Location: salem
1986 Chevrolet Camaro
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| yea ill proubly be the one that has to crawl under that car |
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blue89 Member

Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
1986 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:43 am Post subject: |
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take your distributor off right away to avoid breaking it. The tailshaft stuff is a pain but if you do it like this its easy.
-lift the car off the ground (even rear)
-shake the car to make sure it's stable! If you're not comfortable shaking it why would you crawl under it?
-use a floor jack to take weight of tranny off crossmember
-remove tranny crossmember
-lower the tranny so you can unbolt the torque arm mount, tranny/crossmember bolts, shift linkage, speedo cable, and cooler lines if you want to
-then put it back up with the crossmember not bolted to the tranny |
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corey davidson Member

Joined: 12 Sep 2008 Posts: 351 Location: salem
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:31 am Post subject: |
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| btw thank you guys for all ur help |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:40 am Post subject: |
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So did you finish the swap yet? Pics? Crazy carnage stories?  |
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GREG DAVIDSON Member

Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 1159 Location: Salem
1989 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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not yet , we've had family visiting from wisconsin for the last two weeks and i've been trying to save money for the parts i wanna throw on like plugs wires motor mounts and prob tranny mounts and oil pan gasket i'll prob start this weekend if it doesnt rain to hard i hope to have more info soon although if anyones near hear and wanting to volinteer their services let me know i'm to poor to pay anyone  |
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GREG DAVIDSON Member

Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 1159 Location: Salem
1989 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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almost out !! _________________
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GREG DAVIDSON Member

Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 1159 Location: Salem
1989 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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bottom _________________
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Dewey316 The Lama

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
1990 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Lol, not sure why you named your pictures after me. :-p |
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GREG DAVIDSON Member

Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 1159 Location: Salem
1989 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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thats how it is in my pic files and because the engine blew comming from your party !!!!!!  _________________
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