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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject: Got Carnage? (56K warn) |
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Is anybody even still on 56K? Anyhoo... pulled everything off the 390 today, and I may have possibly found a little problem with this engine
It looks kinda like the #2 cylinder might have had something in it too, not quite sure:
This is what's left of the valves:
When pulling the lifters I noticed one of the ones on the dead cylinder was a little different from all the others (right side in this pic):
And as it turns out is was a LOT different:
The cam is also pretty ganked on that same lobe:
So what do you guys think could have caused that much damage? Just a bad cam? Bad lifter? Bad oil? I can't say for sure, but the engine probably has less than 10K on it, and was a fresh build. |
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pathology knight Member
Joined: 15 Mar 2007 Posts: 306 Location: entiat, WA.
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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holy crap!......  _________________ we all gotta start somewhere.... |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Bad oil. Bad tune. Head Gasket. Valve/headwork. List goes on. There is some serious black in there. I'm suprised that's 10k. Look more like 150k. |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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You know I was thinking that as I pulled it apart. The block looks new, but the pistons look like crap.
Either way, it's all headed towards the same scrap heap. |
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blue89 Member

Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:10 am Post subject: |
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| Looks like the cylinder wall busted open? How long has it been sitting before you pulled the heads off? Jeebus thats a lot of damage. It looks pretty bad for 10k. |
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Quasi-Traction "I have petals"

Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 3873 Location: stumptown
1986 Chevrolet Camaro Berlinetta
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Ouchie.....
All hope is not lost, if its just the motor..
On the bright side you could fit a 429 or 460 in there.  _________________
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91RSVert Member
Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 2736 Location: AR
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:42 am Post subject: |
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the cam is exactly to a t what my cams kept looking like being pulled out of my v6. Found out later is was due to lack of zinc in the new epa regulated oil.
Now, the rest of that is a bit confusing. But does look like the cyl wall was thin. But it still shouldnt have rusted that much unless its been sitting for years
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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The 390 is supposedly a 390GT from a '68 Mustang. The intake is right for that engine, but I don't think the heads are.
The car sat for three years after that damage, so that explains the rust, but not why there's so much carbon on the pistons.
BTW, Chris, I'm kinda torn between an FE, and a 385 series but I'll probably stick with the FE for the old-school appeal. Plus I already have all the parts for it, minus one head and the longblock.  |
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Quasi-Traction "I have petals"

Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 3873 Location: stumptown
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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you have a PM aaron. _________________
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blue89 Member

Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Hey aaron, is the cylinder wall busted open? Looks like it. |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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@ Chris: replied.
@ Travis: yeah, the cylinder wall is torn into the rear water jacket. I still haven't found that intake valve though.  |
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dlp Member
Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 374 Location: Bothell, Wa
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Damn, the pic of the holed cylinder looks like an old Hibathci BBQ I used to have. |
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