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83Z28BlackBetty
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:37 pm    Post subject: spark plugs and wires! Reply with quote

Time for a good tune up before dyno.

what kind of plugs should i run? wires? is there a big difference between name brand expensive wires and regular autolites besides colors?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ac delco plugs. i really like Taylor wires. i have had a set on my v6 car for about three years now. they are competitively priced if you don't get the 10.4MM size.

whatever wires you go with get the "cut to fit", pick out a routing solution (over valve covers, whatev) and then cut them to fit said solution. make your engine bay look good.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would most definately go with some ACdelco plugs or NGKs and for wires delcos or if you want to get some really nice ones get some MSD superconductors but theyre spendy, i would try to avoid any set of wires that are cheap i really like the napa ones theyre really good quality.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would go with Autolite plugs and any good quality wire.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever you do, stay away from Bosch +4's.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rjmcgee wrote:
I would go with Autolite plugs and any good quality wire.


I didn't used to like Autolites, but I've had superb results with them on 3 different cars.

Check the condition of your cap/rotor/coil and replace or clean those as necessary too. A new air element, and some fuel system cleaner might help too.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taylor Wires, Summit Wires, Crane Wires.

Summit = Taylor wires.

I like the Autolites. They work and they're cheap.

Tried others, nothing seemed to do any better. Plus the autolights Hex section for tightening sticks out of the head farther, which my aftermarket heads need.

As for the number... I run Autolite 25's with an MSD box/coil. They don't seem to be too hot for me.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so is around $55 for the wires a good set? or is that still high, too low? i haven't bought plug wires before.

Also spark plugs, there are some for like 8 bucks per plug?!?! I shure hope you guys weren't talking about these! i'm thinking more like $2 per plug, is this a good estimate?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You want the plain old cheap copper type plugs. NGK, Autolite, Delco most anything except bosch and champion. Price for the plug wires sounds ok. Like paul said the summit stuff is the same wire as taylor but with cheap boots. The napa belden wire isnt bad, and they've actually upgraded their regular stock type wire to what used to be their performance wire. Only wires I've had bad luck with were accell and msd.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's about what I paid for the wires I have, I need to look and see what brand they are (I forgot Embarassed ), but they were fully assembled and included the coil wire, unlike the cut-to-size wires Tony is referring to. My plugs are good ole stock AC Delco. NGK plugs seem to do well for me also.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, how do you determine how much of a gap you should have on your plugs?

(Not to hi-jack your thread)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carb and HEI should be about .040 or .045

Alot of the thirdgen gap from the factory is .035

I have aftermarket ignition and gap at .045
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

most definately do not use bosch plugs of any sort i cant tell you how many cars ive seen running like crap and found out they had bosch plugs in them replaced them with something else and voila it runs perfect i ussualy go wiht NGK V-powers or standard delcos theyre like 1.99
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Delco plugs all the way on GM rides.

Wires, unless you have a hotter then stock coil, standard good brand counter wires are fine.

If you have Accel, MSD, hypertech coil, then you need some better wires like Taylors, MSD, etc.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

91RSVert wrote:
Delco plugs all the way on GM rides.

Wires, unless you have a hotter then stock coil, standard good brand counter wires are fine.

If you have Accel, MSD, hypertech coil, then you need some better wires like Taylors, MSD, etc.


au contrair...

Autolites on GM rides have proven numerous satisfactory results on multiple tunes.

I tried delcos on my former 350, no bueno. Ended up with autolite 24's on all 8 cyl's and had a good running ride.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive tryed them, they seem to work like any other plug. No advantages that I noticed. Now I did run them in my dodge.

Champions didnt seem to last as long.

I was told never stick bosch plugs in a gm ride. So I havent.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

91RSVert wrote:


I was told never stick bosch plugs in a gm ride. So I havent.


the only cars ive ever known that run good with bosch plugs are european cars

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LB985IROC wrote:
most definately do not use bosch plugs of any sort i cant tell you how many cars ive seen running like crap and found out they had bosch plugs in them replaced them with something else and voila it runs perfect i ussualy go wiht NGK V-powers or standard delcos theyre like 1.99


+1 to that. From personal experience. I wouldn't use an iridium plug either. you'll get less spark out of them. Good for forced induction though as I believe they run colder and help with detonation. In all honesty, I wouldn't run anything but a standard plug on a stock to mild street engine. I have NGK V-powers.

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