Cascade Crew

tcsmkfn20 · Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:30 pm Post subject: please help.....

I am currently attending universal technical institute in rancho cucamonga,Ca and i am in our hot rod class and we are building chevy small block 350's and i am trying to beat the school record for for horsepower on a n/a motor which is 371hp. So i figured if anyone could help it would be the guys on this fourm....so if u have any ideas or any donor parts it would be greatly appreciated.......thank you Confused

Michael Green

Dewey316 · Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:47 pm Post subject:

I'm moving this to the garage forum.

What are the rules? How will the power levels be measured?

--John

aaron_sK · Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject:

What restrictions are there on size and mods? How about intakes?

rjmcgee · The Hammer Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 2328

aaron_sK · Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:41 pm Post subject:

I was kinda thinking that myself. Cause 371 isn't all that much. Hell, a head&cam on an LS1 would probably be more than that.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:57 pm Post subject:

If its flywheel.... vortec heads, voodoo cam, 10:1 static compression, single plane intake.... about 426hp.

izcain · Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:25 pm Post subject:

Try to do a little research if you do the vortecs and whatnot about proper quench and try to get the thinnest head gasket you can manage that will still keep the motor in it's proper quench. That way you can squeeze as much compression out of it as possible. If your trying to squeeze power here and there try to little tricks they use. After the build and running the motor, ice the intake down before each pull, run synthetic oil, @ least port match your intake to the heads and exaust ports to the headers or manifolds. I would take out the dremel and smooth the ports a bit on the intake. Try diffrent carb spacers if they allow those. When useing heads are you allowed to use other valvetrain ie. valves and springs and whatnot. I would try to run some undercut lightweight valves. Cheap but will outflow the stocker. There are people pushing WAY more then 371 N/A I dont think it would be hard to beat just depends on the limitations.

Dewey316 · Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:19 pm Post subject:

Yup, knowing the limitations of the rules, and of the budge are key, heck there are tons of 350 build-ups out there that will do 400hp. But, if you are stuck with some funny rules, or a really restrictive budget, then it might take some creativity.

If you can post up a VERY detailed outline of what you have to work with, the budget and rules, I am sure we can help out.

Also, if it is purely a horse power number, you might go really funky, and build up a 302 or something, and rev it to 9k, the extra RPM could make the diffrence.

izcain · Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:23 pm Post subject:

Solid lifter camshaft and some stiff springs and wind that sucker to the moon! Cool

rjmcgee · The Hammer Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 2328

They are probably looking at something realistic. Unless you got thousands to spend on the bottom end alone you need to limit the RPM's to around 6000. Stock parts will work well to that. Also thats why I recomended the XE cam since it will peak around 6000.

Horsepower = $'s

More $'s gets more horsepower.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:25 am Post subject:

Quench should always be the ideal .04. If they are doing this in a class, he should be able to either zero deck and us a .041 felpro gasket, or if it's around a stockers .025 in the hole... use the felpro steel shim .015 (which I use) and coat it with coppercoat.

wanarunhard · Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:15 pm Post subject: horsepower

you guys ever hear of the 350 in camaros and chevelles that had 350 horses stock? i think it was late 60s era cars get one of those and bump it up a bit if you can find one

chevymad · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:31 am Post subject: Re: horsepower