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kidcamaro Member
Joined: 09 Jan 2004 Posts: 325 Location: eugene/springfield
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 5:51 pm Post subject: anyone know about updates for a tpi car? |
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i took my car to a shop and they ran it on the computer. they said there have been 3 updates for my cars prom. they said that was what was makin it knock sometimes. anyone know if this is possible? they said to take it too the gm dealer and get the updates. |
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ET phone hoME Member
Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 237 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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seems moderatly reasonable but id call your local dealer and ask if there are updates for your prom and if they have them, maybe say it in a way as if this is a normal thing, im sure they could come up with and update if you have no idea whats happening. _________________ 1990 Camaro RS, Black w/ Red Int, V6 3.1L, Auto, T-Tops. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Never heard of it personally, but I am no expert. |
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Dewey316 The Lama
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
1990 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:18 am Post subject: |
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I have also never heard of a PROM update for TPI cars. |
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Schultzy89GTA M.R.A. (11sec Club)
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 4415 Location: Gresham, OR
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:53 am Post subject: |
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I've heard of seatbelt recalls, e-brake recalls, etc. but in my travels have not ever heard of a PROM recall or update. Mr. Goodwrench will know for sure. If there is one I would imagine that they would have a replacement prom... I doubt that they are burning chips at the dealership for our cars.
It almost makes you wonder what year your mechanic was using when he did this research.
-Schultzy |
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Dewey316 The Lama
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:58 am Post subject: |
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Schultzy89GTA wrote: | It almost makes you wonder what year your mechanic was using when he did this research.
-Schultzy |
Whatever it was, I hope he shared. |
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Flyte risk Member
Joined: 21 Jan 2004 Posts: 55 Location: Aloha OR
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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The 85 TPI cars did have a problem with the proms that was fixed under a recall of some sort. thats the only prom issue I've ever heard of. |
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85 T/A WS6 Member
Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 539 Location: Buckley
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kidcamaro Member
Joined: 09 Jan 2004 Posts: 325 Location: eugene/springfield
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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well i took the car to gm a few weeks ago. they said theres no updates. im changin out the egr valve, they suggested starting there. i got it all apart but i cant get the damn bolt on the back side of the egr. i cant seem to find a tool at any stores thats gonna work. anyone have any ideas what i might be able to do? i did notice thats its not as hard to take it all apart as the gm guy said it would be. they wanted like 600 bucks to change it out. lol. i was like yeah ok i'll just take my car home now. oh yeah. i wont be gettin it back together till the weekend. i noticed that its really black inside the plenum. what should i use to clean it out good? will carb cleaner work ok? |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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kidcamaro wrote: | well i took the car to gm a few weeks ago. they said theres no updates. im changin out the egr valve, they suggested starting there. i got it all apart but i cant get the damn bolt on the back side of the egr. i cant seem to find a tool at any stores thats gonna work. anyone have any ideas what i might be able to do? i did notice thats its not as hard to take it all apart as the gm guy said it would be. they wanted like 600 bucks to change it out. lol. i was like yeah ok i'll just take my car home now. oh yeah. i wont be gettin it back together till the weekend. i noticed that its really black inside the plenum. what should i use to clean it out good? will carb cleaner work ok? |
The black in the plenum is carbon buildup. Unless is physcially blocking something, leave it alone. You'd have to soak it on carb cleaner/gas or something to clean it out.
Maybe take out the distributor to put an end wrench on the bolt? |
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kidcamaro Member
Joined: 09 Jan 2004 Posts: 325 Location: eugene/springfield
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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when i use a wrench its hitting the fuel regulator. i would rather not have to take it out if possible. maybe if i can find a wrench with a bend it in it like a distributor wrench. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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If its hittin the fuel regulator... pop the 4 retaining bolts off the fuel rail and lift up. The rains +injectors will come up and should give you just enough umph to get it. Might have to undo the front fuel line bolt at the front of the intake/head.
Put a dab of vaseline around the injector O rings before sliding them back in. (makes things 10 times easier, and they wont have the possability of tearing) |
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kidcamaro Member
Joined: 09 Jan 2004 Posts: 325 Location: eugene/springfield
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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the injectors just pull out? im thinkin thats the way im gonna have to do it. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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kidcamaro wrote: | the injectors just pull out? im thinkin thats the way im gonna have to do it. |
Yep. They have little clips that attach them to the fuel rails... and they just slip up right out of the manifold. |
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kidcamaro Member
Joined: 09 Jan 2004 Posts: 325 Location: eugene/springfield
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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cool. thanks for the help. im gonna tackle it this weekend and hopefully ill have my car running good again. |
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kidcamaro Member
Joined: 09 Jan 2004 Posts: 325 Location: eugene/springfield
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:40 am Post subject: |
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i got the old egr out. but the new one looks a bit different. heres a few pics of them both
the new one is the one on the left. it doesnt have that same thing sticking out of the bottom. does anyone if this new without that little thing will work? |
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5474
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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Alot of times the new ones will look different. Does your new one require the installation of a washer? Looks like it does. You need to pick the right size one from the instruction sheet then swedge it in place with a center punch. This will make the new egr valve flow the same as the old one. |
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kidcamaro Member
Joined: 09 Jan 2004 Posts: 325 Location: eugene/springfield
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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yeah it does have washers. but it has a list of numbers, the number on my old one is like 1709106 but the sheet that has the numbers on the new one go from 1709105 to 107. it doesnt show one for 106. |
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chevymad Master B
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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Then it is possible you have the wrong one. Without knowing which # washer you need the car wont run correctly. |
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kidcamaro Member
Joined: 09 Jan 2004 Posts: 325 Location: eugene/springfield
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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i suppose i should take it back then. i got it napa but ill go to gm and get it this time. thanks for the help. |
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